Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Recommended
  • Speaking
KevinMD
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking
KevinMD
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking
  • About KevinMD | Kevin Pho, MD
  • Be heard on social media’s leading physician voice
  • Contact Kevin
  • Discounted enhanced author page
  • DMCA Policy
  • Establishing, Managing, and Protecting Your Online Reputation: A Social Media Guide for Physicians and Medical Practices
  • Group vs. individual disability insurance for doctors: pros and cons
  • KevinMD influencer opportunities
  • Opinion and commentary by KevinMD
  • Physician burnout speakers to keynote your conference
  • Physician Coaching by KevinMD
  • Physician keynote speaker: Kevin Pho, MD
  • Physician Speaking by KevinMD: a boutique speakers bureau
  • Primary care physician in Nashua, NH | Kevin Pho, MD
  • Privacy Policy
  • Recommended services by KevinMD
  • Terms of Use Agreement
  • Thank you for subscribing to KevinMD
  • Thank you for upgrading to the KevinMD enhanced author page
  • The biggest mistake doctors make when purchasing disability insurance
  • The doctor’s guide to disability insurance: short-term vs. long-term
  • The KevinMD ToolKit
  • Upgrade to the KevinMD enhanced author page
  • Why own-occupation disability insurance is a must for doctors

Electronic medical records and detail obsessed doctors

Paul Sax, MD
Tech
June 10, 2010
Share
Tweet
Share

When it comes to writing consult notes, it often seems as if we ID specialists have a blatant form of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Every detail is fair game — travel history, dietary habits, all sorts of seemingly trivial exposures, and of course microbiologic data stretching back to the Cretaceous period.

I’ll never forget receiving sign-out from the graduating first-year ID fellow when I started my fellowship. It included a photocopy of a consult note she had written the day before on a woman with fever after gallbladder surgery.

In five pages of meticulously-detailed prose, there was this memorable item from the Social History:

Two pets at home: a dog (Rusty) and cat (Cleo); both are healthy.

Good news for Rusty and Cleo! But what could this possibly have to do with post-operative fever after gall bladder surgery? Even if you allow that perhaps she was suffering from some bizarre post-cholecystectomy zoonosis (if there is such a thing), why was it necessary to cite the pets’ names?

Electronic medical records have, if anything, made matters even worse for the detail-obsessed. The ability to cut and paste endless reams of data into a note is irresistible to most ID docs.

It leads to a bizarre paradox where the more information in the note, often the less useful it is — a phenomenon expertly dissected over here on KevinMD.com. Says guest writer Jaan Sidorov:

[A doctor] had received a copy of a lengthy consultant-physician’s documentation involving one of his patients and was astonished by the blob of past data, prior notes, test results, excerpts, quotes, interpretations and correspondence that had been replicated word-for-word in the course of “seeing” his patient. The terse portions describing what the patient actually said, what the consulting doctor actually examined and what the diagnosis and plan were were inconspicuously buried toward the end of the EHR document.

And you know what’s most maddening? Under the current “guidelines” for coding and billing, there are true incentives — both financial and regulatory — to write this kind of text-heavy note, one heavily infused with templates and boilerplate language. The more complexity the better!

Here’s a proposal: the goal of a consult note should be concise documentation of what you think, and why, then what you’re recommending, and why.

I’m sure Rusty and Cleo would agree.

Paul Sax is the Clinical Director of Infectious Diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. His blog HIV and ID Observations, is part of Journal Watch, where he is Editor of Journal Watch AIDS Clinical Care.

Submit a guest post and be heard.

Prev

ABIM responds to doctors sharing board certification questions

June 10, 2010 Kevin 12
…
Next

Treating a child with fever and leukemia

June 10, 2010 Kevin 5
…

Tagged as: Health IT, Specialist

< Previous Post
ABIM responds to doctors sharing board certification questions
Next Post >
Treating a child with fever and leukemia

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Paul Sax, MD

  • An infectious disease doctor answers your COVID-19 and coronavirus questions

    Paul Sax, MD
  • When should physicians read the House of God?

    Paul Sax, MD
  • Should we write that patients are “pleasant” in medical notes?

    Paul Sax, MD

More in Tech

  • AI chatbots and patient safety need physician design

    Tod Stillson, MD
  • Artificial intelligence can prevent a delayed diagnosis

    Uday Rajaram
  • Evidence-based medicine needs real-world data to evolve

    Saurabh Gombar, MD
  • AI clinical judgment is what AI chatbots still lack

    Arthur Lazarus, MD, MBA
  • AI therapy chatbots are crossing into impersonation

    Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD
  • 3 things AI in health care investing cannot evaluate

    Harsha Moole, MD
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • Primary care crisis requires new training and skills

      Justin Oldfield, MD | Physician
    • Physician retirement is a myth for the ripening doctor

      Farid Sabet-Sharghi, MD | Physician
    • Expanding the SOAP framework boosts health outcomes

      Deepak Gupta, MD and Sarwan Kumar, MD | Physician
    • The handwashing standard nobody finished. Until now.

      Bernadette Burroughs, RN | Conditions
    • Primary care access is the real problem, not the system

      Payam Zamani, MD | Physician
    • AI chatbots and patient safety need physician design

      Tod Stillson, MD | Tech
  • Past 6 Months

    • I Googled my own name and a corporate clinic I’ve never worked at appeared [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Primary care crisis requires new training and skills

      Justin Oldfield, MD | Physician
    • How corporate health care ruined the medical profession

      Edmond Cabbabe, MD | Physician
    • Why nature-based medicine is the future of health care

      John La Puma, MD | Education
    • Medicare practice expense cuts will hurt patients

      John Birkmeyer, MD | Policy
    • How xenotransplantation could finally solve organ shortages

      Rafael S. Garcia-Cortes, MD | Conditions
  • Recent Posts

    • AI chatbots and patient safety need physician design

      Tod Stillson, MD | Tech
    • Reclaiming the lost art of the physical exam

      Ann Lebeck, MD | Physician
    • Primary aldosteronism hides behind high blood pressure

      Sanjay B. Dixit, MD | Conditions
    • Cognitive overload in cardiac arrest is a human problem

      Michael Peck, MD | Conditions
    • Artificial intelligence can prevent a delayed diagnosis

      Uday Rajaram | Tech
    • Health insurance coverage loss threatens sick children

      Mansi Kotwal, MD, MPH | Policy

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

View 5 Comments >

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • Primary care crisis requires new training and skills

      Justin Oldfield, MD | Physician
    • Physician retirement is a myth for the ripening doctor

      Farid Sabet-Sharghi, MD | Physician
    • Expanding the SOAP framework boosts health outcomes

      Deepak Gupta, MD and Sarwan Kumar, MD | Physician
    • The handwashing standard nobody finished. Until now.

      Bernadette Burroughs, RN | Conditions
    • Primary care access is the real problem, not the system

      Payam Zamani, MD | Physician
    • AI chatbots and patient safety need physician design

      Tod Stillson, MD | Tech
  • Past 6 Months

    • I Googled my own name and a corporate clinic I’ve never worked at appeared [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Primary care crisis requires new training and skills

      Justin Oldfield, MD | Physician
    • How corporate health care ruined the medical profession

      Edmond Cabbabe, MD | Physician
    • Why nature-based medicine is the future of health care

      John La Puma, MD | Education
    • Medicare practice expense cuts will hurt patients

      John Birkmeyer, MD | Policy
    • How xenotransplantation could finally solve organ shortages

      Rafael S. Garcia-Cortes, MD | Conditions
  • Recent Posts

    • AI chatbots and patient safety need physician design

      Tod Stillson, MD | Tech
    • Reclaiming the lost art of the physical exam

      Ann Lebeck, MD | Physician
    • Primary aldosteronism hides behind high blood pressure

      Sanjay B. Dixit, MD | Conditions
    • Cognitive overload in cardiac arrest is a human problem

      Michael Peck, MD | Conditions
    • Artificial intelligence can prevent a delayed diagnosis

      Uday Rajaram | Tech
    • Health insurance coverage loss threatens sick children

      Mansi Kotwal, MD, MPH | Policy

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today

Copyright © 2026 KevinMD.com | Powered by Astra WordPress Theme

  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

Electronic medical records and detail obsessed doctors
5 comments

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...