Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Recommended
  • Speaking
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking

Does medical school train students to become managers or leaders?

Maria Yang, MD
Education
July 14, 2019
Share
Tweet
Share

I worked with someone (not a physician, but that doesn’t really matter here) whose title was “assistant director.” He and I quickly recognized that we worked well together: His head brimmed with big visions and ideas, whereas my head brimmed with plans as to how to make those ideas manifest in the actual world.

“He’s like a bunch of balloons,” I quipped to a colleague. “He’s got a ton of ideas — shiny, bright balloons — but he needs someone to hold all the ribbons to keep them from floating away.”

“Do you think medical school trains us to become managers or leaders?” my colleague asked. Someone several rungs up on the organizational chart had convened a supervisor training; one of the major points of discussion surrounded the differences between “managers” and “leaders.” One suggested generated a lot of wondrous “ooooh”ing: Managers ensure that the ship is running properly; leaders ensure that the ship is going the right direction.

“Managers,” I responded. “Particularly once you get to internship.” Interns are learning on the job how to diagnose and treat medical problems in actual human beings with all the complicating factors of life: Pregnancy, poverty, rare diseases, under- or over-involved family members, a health care system that can prioritize profits over patients.

“Really? I think medicine teaches us to become leaders. By the time we are attendings, we have to hold the entire context of a specific person in mind while ensuring that junior staff learn skills — the technical stuff in addition to the bedside manner stuff — that do not result in harm to patients.”

“Yeah, I agree with that,” I said after a pause. Only upon further reflection, I was able to articulate that physicians are often “stuck” as managers because we are often too busy doing clinical work to exert influence and demonstrate leadership on the systems in which we work.

Sometimes it is the system that gets in the way of us doing all the things we want and should do.

Though I am more likely to be the person holding the balloons than the actual balloons, Big Thoughts still trickle through my mind:

  • What if the public mental health and substance use disorder systems worked from the assumption that people will get better and no longer need services? What if we built a system where people didn’t get stuck in it?
  • What if the ratio of “case management” to “treatment” was flipped in the public mental health and substance use disorder systems? What if people received effective treatment sooner? Would people then need as much “case management”?
  • What if various skills — emotion regulation, distress tolerance, effective communication, relating to others, self-reflection — were automatically included in prenatal care and continued post-partum?
  • What if various skills — emotion regulation, distress tolerance, effective communication, relating to others, self-reflection — were included in school curricula for every grade?
  • What if designated leaders and managers of clinics, hospitals, and other health care entities included more clinicians (of all stripes) and people who receive services there? What if it were routine for health care entities and regulators — particularly Medicaid and Medicare — to solicit and implement ideas from clinicians and people who receive services?

I agree that systems — whether formal or not — need both managers and leaders. I also agree that the most effective managers and leaders do not rely upon their hierarchical positions to promote change and improvement; they instead cultivate and nurture interdependent relationships throughout the system. After all, in health care, our primary goal is (or at least should be) to help others.

Maria Yang is a psychiatrist who blogs at her self-titled site, Maria Yang, MD.  

Image credit: Shutterstock.com

Prev

An American physician in Sweden. Here's what he thought about its health care.

July 14, 2019 Kevin 21
…
Next

When colon cancer is diagnosed, it's also a difficult day for the gastroenterologist

July 15, 2019 Kevin 1
…

Tagged as: Medical school, Public Health & Policy

Post navigation

< Previous Post
An American physician in Sweden. Here's what he thought about its health care.
Next Post >
When colon cancer is diagnosed, it's also a difficult day for the gastroenterologist

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Maria Yang, MD

  • A doctor’s COVID-19 advice to physician leaders

    Maria Yang, MD
  • When a patient in jail lacks impulse control

    Maria Yang, MD
  • The end of a life never just impacts the individual who died

    Maria Yang, MD

Related Posts

  • Beyond the Fauci effect: As medical school application rates soar, medical students struggle

    Natalie LaBossier
  • End medical school grades

    Adam Lieber
  • 3 pieces of advice to new medical students

    Natasha Abadilla
  • 5 reasons why medical students drop out

    Dr. Daniel
  • Why do medical students kill themselves?

    Nahda Harati
  • The medical school personal statement struggle

    Sheindel Ifrah

More in Education

  • Why medical student debt is killing primary care in America

    Alexander Camp
  • Why the pre-med path is pushing future doctors to the brink

    Jordan Williamson, MEd
  • Graduating from medical school without family: a story of strength and survival

    Anonymous
  • 2 hours to decide my future: Why the NRMP’s SOAP process is broken

    Nicolette V. S. Sewall, MD, MPH
  • What led me from nurse practitioner to medical school

    Sarah White, APRN
  • Bridging the rural surgical care gap with rotating health care teams

    Ankit Jain
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • Why are medical students turning away from primary care? [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Here’s what providers really need in a modern EHR

      Laura Kohlhagen, MD, MBA | Tech
    • Why “do no harm” might be harming modern medicine

      Sabooh S. Mubbashar, MD | Physician
    • How community paramedicine impacts Indigenous elders

      Noah Weinberg | Conditions
    • Addressing U.S. vaccine inequities in vulnerable communities [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • How to speak the language of leadership to improve doctor wellness [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
  • Past 6 Months

    • Why tracking cognitive load could save doctors and patients

      Hiba Fatima Hamid | Education
    • Why are medical students turning away from primary care? [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Why “do no harm” might be harming modern medicine

      Sabooh S. Mubbashar, MD | Physician
    • Here’s what providers really need in a modern EHR

      Laura Kohlhagen, MD, MBA | Tech
    • What the world must learn from the life and death of Hind Rajab

      Saba Qaiser, RN | Conditions
    • How medical culture hides burnout in plain sight

      Marco Benítez | Conditions
  • Recent Posts

    • Addressing U.S. vaccine inequities in vulnerable communities [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Why Canada is losing its skilled immigrant doctors

      Olumuyiwa Bamgbade, MD | Physician
    • Why doctors are reclaiming control from burnout culture

      Maureen Gibbons, MD | Physician
    • Would The Pitts’ Dr. Robby Robinavitch welcome a new colleague? Yes. Especially if their initials were AI.

      Gabe Jones, MBA | Tech
    • Why medicine must stop worshipping burnout and start valuing humanity

      Sarah White, APRN | Conditions
    • Why screening for diseases you might have can backfire

      Andy Lazris, MD and Alan Roth, DO | Physician

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

View 1 Comments >

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • Why are medical students turning away from primary care? [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Here’s what providers really need in a modern EHR

      Laura Kohlhagen, MD, MBA | Tech
    • Why “do no harm” might be harming modern medicine

      Sabooh S. Mubbashar, MD | Physician
    • How community paramedicine impacts Indigenous elders

      Noah Weinberg | Conditions
    • Addressing U.S. vaccine inequities in vulnerable communities [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • How to speak the language of leadership to improve doctor wellness [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
  • Past 6 Months

    • Why tracking cognitive load could save doctors and patients

      Hiba Fatima Hamid | Education
    • Why are medical students turning away from primary care? [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Why “do no harm” might be harming modern medicine

      Sabooh S. Mubbashar, MD | Physician
    • Here’s what providers really need in a modern EHR

      Laura Kohlhagen, MD, MBA | Tech
    • What the world must learn from the life and death of Hind Rajab

      Saba Qaiser, RN | Conditions
    • How medical culture hides burnout in plain sight

      Marco Benítez | Conditions
  • Recent Posts

    • Addressing U.S. vaccine inequities in vulnerable communities [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Why Canada is losing its skilled immigrant doctors

      Olumuyiwa Bamgbade, MD | Physician
    • Why doctors are reclaiming control from burnout culture

      Maureen Gibbons, MD | Physician
    • Would The Pitts’ Dr. Robby Robinavitch welcome a new colleague? Yes. Especially if their initials were AI.

      Gabe Jones, MBA | Tech
    • Why medicine must stop worshipping burnout and start valuing humanity

      Sarah White, APRN | Conditions
    • Why screening for diseases you might have can backfire

      Andy Lazris, MD and Alan Roth, DO | Physician

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today
  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

Does medical school train students to become managers or leaders?
1 comments

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...