Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Recommended
  • Speaking
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking

Why should physicians have to enter orders in the computer?

Edwin Leap, MD
Tech
August 5, 2015
Share
Tweet
Share

shutterstock_85514146

So, there I was yesterday, working frantically to keep myself above the water level of the rapidly rising swamp of patients.  Navigating, haltingly, the onerous and demonic EMR.  So I thought I ordered three nebulizers, but it was only one.  The respiratory tech approached me and informed me that she would put them in, but only this time. That I’d have to do them myself for a while to learn, or I’d become spoiled.  You know, spoiled.  That is, I might spend time with patients instead of the keyboard!

I don’t understand why it’s so much better for me to enter orders than for the secretary, or even nurse in some instances, to enter them.  Other people still vastly outnumber doctors in most departments.  Further, I still work in two places where I check the box on the form, or tell the nurse/secretary, and they enter it into the computer.

Why was that so bad?  Were there that many errors?  Were the secretaries that overworked?  Is the use of language, as in, “Mr. Schwartz in room 5 needs CT angio to rule out PE,” so utterly fraught with confusion and uncertainty?  Are physicians of such marginal value that we need to add tasks to the already challenging data entry and (secondary) patient care that we need to be trained to enter orders ourselves?  What’s next, perform our own CT scans, so we get it right?

And in an age of nurse empowerment, are nurses so unworthy of our confidence that they can’t do anything until it’s in the computer?  I swear, I expect to someday say “start CPR” and be asked, “Did you put it in the computer yet?”

We have crossed the line in the sand, passed the zero moment.  We have jumped the shark and all the other metaphors I can imagine.  Charting is bad enough, but I see nothing beneficial from having me sit at the desk and try to make decisions about life, death and disability, all the while trying to figure out how to enter a timed troponin level, even as the next stroke victim rolls through the door.

“Something,” as my patients used to say, “has got to be done.”

Edwin Leap is an emergency physician who blogs at edwinleap.com and is the author of the Practice Test and Life in Emergistan.

Image credit: Shutterstock.com

Prev

Listen to patients rather than rely on tests

August 5, 2015 Kevin 14
…
Next

Culture influences end of life decisions

August 5, 2015 Kevin 2
…

Tagged as: Health IT, Hospital-Based Medicine

Post navigation

< Previous Post
Listen to patients rather than rely on tests
Next Post >
Culture influences end of life decisions

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Edwin Leap, MD

  • The emergency department crisis: Why patient boarding is dangerous

    Edwin Leap, MD
  • Hospitals at a breaking point: Lack of staff and resources leave ERs in chaos

    Edwin Leap, MD
  • Trapped in a cauldron of suffering, medical staff are weary

    Edwin Leap, MD

Related Posts

  • Are patients using social media to attack physicians?

    David R. Stukus, MD
  • The risk physicians take when going on social media

    Anonymous
  • Beware of pseudoscience: The desperate need for physicians on social media

    Valerie A. Jones, MD
  • When physicians are cyberbullied: an interview with ZDoggMD

    Monique Tello, MD
  • Surprising and unlikely rewards of social media engagement by physicians

    Lisa Chan, MD
  • Physicians who don’t play the social media game may be left behind

    Xrayvsn, MD

More in Tech

  • Innovation in medicine: 6 strategies for docs

    Jalene Jacob, MD, MBA
  • AI in medical imaging: When algorithms block the view

    Gerald Kuo
  • Physicians must lead the vetting of AI

    Saurabh Gupta, MD
  • Why Medicare must embrace AI support

    Ronke Lawal
  • Modernizing health care with AI and workflow

    Christina Johns, MD
  • How to adopt AI in health care responsibly

    Dave Wessinger
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • How to fight for your loved one during a medical crisis [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • A new autism care model in Idaho

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Conditions
    • Protecting elder clinicians from violence

      Gerald Kuo | Conditions
    • China’s health care model of scale and speed

      Myriam Diabangouaya, MD & Vikram Madireddy, MD | Physician
    • The myth of endless availability in medicine

      Emmanuel Chilengwe | Conditions
    • Bureaucratic evil in modern health care

      Dr. Bryan Theunissen | Conditions
  • Past 6 Months

    • Why you should get your Lp(a) tested

      Monzur Morshed, MD and Kaysan Morshed | Conditions
    • Rebuilding the backbone of health care [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • The dismantling of public health infrastructure

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • The flaw in the ACA’s physician ownership ban

      Luis Tumialán, MD | Policy
    • The decline of the doctor-patient relationship

      William Lynes, MD | Physician
    • Rethinking cholesterol and atherosclerosis

      Larry Kaskel, MD | Conditions
  • Recent Posts

    • How to fight for your loved one during a medical crisis [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Is trauma surgery a dying field?

      Farshad Farnejad, MD | Physician
    • Gen Z, ADHD, and divided attention in therapy

      Ronke Lawal | Conditions
    • Innovation in medicine: 6 strategies for docs

      Jalene Jacob, MD, MBA | Tech
    • Why we fund unproven autism therapies

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • Early-onset breast cancer: a survivor’s story

      Sara Rands | Conditions

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

View 116 Comments >

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • How to fight for your loved one during a medical crisis [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • A new autism care model in Idaho

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Conditions
    • Protecting elder clinicians from violence

      Gerald Kuo | Conditions
    • China’s health care model of scale and speed

      Myriam Diabangouaya, MD & Vikram Madireddy, MD | Physician
    • The myth of endless availability in medicine

      Emmanuel Chilengwe | Conditions
    • Bureaucratic evil in modern health care

      Dr. Bryan Theunissen | Conditions
  • Past 6 Months

    • Why you should get your Lp(a) tested

      Monzur Morshed, MD and Kaysan Morshed | Conditions
    • Rebuilding the backbone of health care [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • The dismantling of public health infrastructure

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • The flaw in the ACA’s physician ownership ban

      Luis Tumialán, MD | Policy
    • The decline of the doctor-patient relationship

      William Lynes, MD | Physician
    • Rethinking cholesterol and atherosclerosis

      Larry Kaskel, MD | Conditions
  • Recent Posts

    • How to fight for your loved one during a medical crisis [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Is trauma surgery a dying field?

      Farshad Farnejad, MD | Physician
    • Gen Z, ADHD, and divided attention in therapy

      Ronke Lawal | Conditions
    • Innovation in medicine: 6 strategies for docs

      Jalene Jacob, MD, MBA | Tech
    • Why we fund unproven autism therapies

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • Early-onset breast cancer: a survivor’s story

      Sara Rands | Conditions

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today
  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

Why should physicians have to enter orders in the computer?
116 comments

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...