Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Recommended
  • Speaking
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking

Our veterans deserve so much better than the VA

Shirie Leng, MD
Physician
June 19, 2014
Share
Tweet
Share

After I graduated from medical school, my very first real ward rotation as an internal medicine intern was at the VA.  Therefore, I can say with absolute certainty that all the stuff being said about the VA health system is true.  The place is a mess.

Let’s start with the computer system.  The VA medical record system has been held up as an example of an effective EMR system, in which you can get any information on any VA patient no matter what facility you are in.  This is true, but try to actually find useful information and you’re in for a slog.  The interface is old and clunky, and most of my time was spent cutting and pasting from prior visits or admissions.  This may have changed since 2001.  I hope, for the sake of my fellow interns, that it is.  I spent more hours in front of those computers than I ever did seeing patients.

How about the diagnostic services, labs and x-rays?  All available, although I often had to transport the patients to radiology myself.  If I sent a patient for a test that required IV dye and the patient didn’t have an IV, the techs just cancelled the case and sent the patient back, without a word to anyone.  So it was generally better to go along, so I could put the IV in myself.

Same with lab tests.  If the nurse couldn’t obtain blood work, she just cancelled the order.  I would hear about it later, maybe.  So I came in early and did my own blood draws.  Government workers, at their most government-ish: stable salary, hard to get fired, good pension.  Everybody at the VA seemed to be marking time to retirement.

If you live near a VA, drive by on a Monday and then again on a Saturday.  The parking lot on Monday is overflowing.  On Saturday it’s a ghost town.  One of the reasons I pushed patients down to x-ray myself was to get the images done before 5 p.m. on Friday.  Absolutely nothing would get done after that until the following Monday.  No one gets discharged, it’s hard to get images or labs, and not one single administrative person is on site.  If I had a list of 12 patients on Friday, I had that same 12 on Monday, guaranteed, plus whoever came in over the weekend.  Every week we would have a sit down with a whole roomful of social workers, who would review each patient and ask us interns what the plan was.  I got in big trouble one day for suggesting that it didn’t matter what I thought, my patients would stay until the system ground it’s way through the governmental labyrinth.

How about the patients?  Nice old men, all.  Super nice.  Very grateful.  Multiple medical issues, some of which you rarely see anymore.  Complicated patients.  I felt bad for them.  I tried my best, but boy when that month was over was gone.  The patients were not so lucky.

Our veterans deserve so much better than the VA.

Shirie Leng, a former nurse, is an anesthesiologist who blogs at medicine for real.

Prev

It was time to proclaim myself as a wounded healer

June 19, 2014 Kevin 1
…
Next

8 essential tips for physician entrepreneurs

June 19, 2014 Kevin 0
…

Tagged as: Hospital-Based Medicine

Post navigation

< Previous Post
It was time to proclaim myself as a wounded healer
Next Post >
8 essential tips for physician entrepreneurs

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Shirie Leng, MD

  • The choice between medicine and nursing

    Shirie Leng, MD
  • New technology might help us become more empathetic to others’ suffering

    Shirie Leng, MD
  • Does practice really make perfect?

    Shirie Leng, MD

More in Physician

  • Why so many physicians struggle to feel proud—even when they should

    Jessie Mahoney, MD
  • If I had to choose: Choosing the patient over the protocol

    Patrick Hudson, MD
  • How a TV drama exposed the hidden grief of doctors

    Lauren Weintraub, MD
  • Why adults need to rediscover the power of play

    Anthony Fleg, MD
  • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

    Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD
  • The child within: a grown woman’s quiet grief

    Dr. Damane Zehra
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • Why medical students are trading empathy for publications

      Vijay Rajput, MD | Education
    • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

      Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD | Physician
    • The hidden cost of becoming a doctor: a South Asian perspective

      Momeina Aslam | Education
    • Why fixing health care’s data quality is crucial for AI success [PODCAST]

      Jay Anders, MD | Podcast
    • Closing the gap in respiratory care: How robotics can expand access in underserved communities

      Evgeny Ignatov, MD, RRT | Tech
    • Reclaiming trust in online health advice [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
  • Past 6 Months

    • What’s driving medical students away from primary care?

      ​​Vineeth Amba, MPH, Archita Goyal, and Wayne Altman, MD | Education
    • How scales of justice saved a doctor-patient relationship

      Neil Baum, MD | Physician
    • A faster path to becoming a doctor is possible—here’s how

      Ankit Jain | Education
    • Make cognitive testing as routine as a blood pressure check

      Joshua Baker and James Jackson, PsyD | Conditions
    • How dismantling DEI endangers the future of medical care

      Shashank Madhu and Christian Tallo | Education
    • The broken health care system doesn’t have to break you

      Jessie Mahoney, MD | Physician
  • Recent Posts

    • Why fixing health care’s data quality is crucial for AI success [PODCAST]

      Jay Anders, MD | Podcast
    • Why so many physicians struggle to feel proud—even when they should

      Jessie Mahoney, MD | Physician
    • If I had to choose: Choosing the patient over the protocol

      Patrick Hudson, MD | Physician
    • How a TV drama exposed the hidden grief of doctors

      Lauren Weintraub, MD | Physician
    • Why adults need to rediscover the power of play

      Anthony Fleg, MD | Physician
    • How collaboration across medical disciplines and patient advocacy cured a rare disease [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

View 12 Comments >

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • Why medical students are trading empathy for publications

      Vijay Rajput, MD | Education
    • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

      Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD | Physician
    • The hidden cost of becoming a doctor: a South Asian perspective

      Momeina Aslam | Education
    • Why fixing health care’s data quality is crucial for AI success [PODCAST]

      Jay Anders, MD | Podcast
    • Closing the gap in respiratory care: How robotics can expand access in underserved communities

      Evgeny Ignatov, MD, RRT | Tech
    • Reclaiming trust in online health advice [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
  • Past 6 Months

    • What’s driving medical students away from primary care?

      ​​Vineeth Amba, MPH, Archita Goyal, and Wayne Altman, MD | Education
    • How scales of justice saved a doctor-patient relationship

      Neil Baum, MD | Physician
    • A faster path to becoming a doctor is possible—here’s how

      Ankit Jain | Education
    • Make cognitive testing as routine as a blood pressure check

      Joshua Baker and James Jackson, PsyD | Conditions
    • How dismantling DEI endangers the future of medical care

      Shashank Madhu and Christian Tallo | Education
    • The broken health care system doesn’t have to break you

      Jessie Mahoney, MD | Physician
  • Recent Posts

    • Why fixing health care’s data quality is crucial for AI success [PODCAST]

      Jay Anders, MD | Podcast
    • Why so many physicians struggle to feel proud—even when they should

      Jessie Mahoney, MD | Physician
    • If I had to choose: Choosing the patient over the protocol

      Patrick Hudson, MD | Physician
    • How a TV drama exposed the hidden grief of doctors

      Lauren Weintraub, MD | Physician
    • Why adults need to rediscover the power of play

      Anthony Fleg, MD | Physician
    • How collaboration across medical disciplines and patient advocacy cured a rare disease [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today
  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

Our veterans deserve so much better than the VA
12 comments

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...