Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • My Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Transcripts
  • Speaking
KevinMD
  • All
  • Physician
  • Burnout
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • All
  • Physician
  • Burnout
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
    • All
    • Physician
    • Burnout
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • My Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Transcripts
    • Speaking
KevinMD
  • All
  • Physician
  • Burnout
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
    • All
    • Physician
    • Burnout
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • My Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Transcripts
    • Speaking
  • About Kevin Pho, MD, Founder of KevinMD
  • Be heard on social media’s leading physician voice
  • Contact Kevin
  • Custom enhanced author page pricing
  • DMCA Policy
  • Establishing, Managing, and Protecting Your Online Reputation: A Social Media Guide for Physicians and Medical Practices
  • KevinMD influencer opportunities
  • Opinion and commentary by KevinMD
  • Physician burnout speakers to keynote your conference
  • Physician Coaching by KevinMD
  • Physician keynote speaker: Kevin Pho, MD
  • Physician Speaking by KevinMD: a boutique speakers bureau
  • Primary care physician in Nashua, NH | Kevin Pho, MD
  • Privacy Policy
  • Recommended services by KevinMD
  • Terms of Use Agreement
  • Thank you for subscribing to KevinMD
  • Thank you for upgrading to the KevinMD enhanced author page
  • Upgrade to the KevinMD enhanced author page

When patients can’t tell you their symptoms

Hans Duvefelt, MD
Physician
October 24, 2018
Share
Tweet
Share

Today I had a followup appointment with a young adult male with severe intellectual disabilities. He is barely verbal. Several weeks ago his caregiver told me that this young man often pointed to his chest and would say “hurt” or “heart,” they weren’t sure which. He also seemed to have gotten pickier about his food, and would literally pick at the food on his plate as if examining it. His appetite was definitely down, but he hadn’t lost any weight yet.

Jimmy is young and slender, not a smoker, and has no cardiovascular disease in his family, so I prescribed him omeprazole.

“So, how’s Jimmy doing?” I asked.

“He doesn’t bang his chest and say hurt anymore, and he finishes anything we put in front of him” was the answer. “And you know what, I didn’t say anything last time, but he’s been kind of grouchy lately, but that’s all gone, too. He’s like the kid I first met years ago, always in a good mood.”

“It’s humbling,” I reflected, “to care for someone who can’t tell you very much about how they feel. I’m glad you were so observant.”

(A brief aside about the metamedicine aspects of this case: My first prescription for omeprazole was for thirty days and it had one refill. Jimmy’s caregiver said MaineCare wouldn’t honor the refill because chronic medications must be prescribed for 90 days, so he bought the omeprazole over the counter. I shrugged and told him that after sixty days a prior authorization is needed. So, even a “correct” 90-day refill would not have gone through. So we switched to famotidine and if that doesn’t work, we’ll apply for a prior authorization for the omeprazole.)

My visit with Jimmy made me think, again, about the importance of the medical history. Even an observer’s report is better than any number of tests.

Even people with normal intellectual functioning can be hard to diagnose because of their inability to describe what they feel. I have written before about alexithymia, the inability to recognize and describe one’s feelings. These are the people who, when asked to describe their symptoms, start telling you what other people said about how they looked or how they acted. I had seen many people who were like that, but had never heard of the word that populated my Google search when I typed in my observations in the search window.

Primary care, and perhaps even more pediatrics, can be like veterinary medicine: The patient doesn’t always tell you his symptoms. Sometimes he shows you, and sometimes others report their observations to you, but it is your responsibility to make sense of it all and come up with a diagnosis.

“A Country Doctor” is a family physician who blogs at A Country Doctor Writes:.

Image credit: Shutterstock.com

Prev

The majority of physicians will never experience the vast upper echelons of wealth

October 23, 2018 Kevin 0
…
Next

The doctor inside never truly rests

October 24, 2018 Kevin 0
…

Tagged as: Primary Care

< Previous Post
The majority of physicians will never experience the vast upper echelons of wealth
Next Post >
The doctor inside never truly rests

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Hans Duvefelt, MD

  • The art of asking where it hurts

    Hans Duvefelt, MD
  • Thinking like a plumber when adjusting medications

    Hans Duvefelt, MD
  • The American food conspiracy

    Hans Duvefelt, MD

Related Posts

  • Are patients using social media to attack physicians?

    David R. Stukus, MD
  • You are abandoning your patients if you are not active on social media

    Pat Rich
  • Physician Suicide Awareness Day: Where are the patients? 

    Jennifer M. Sweeney
  • Expensive Medicare patients aren’t who you think

    Peter Ubel, MD
  • Here are some things that patients wish doctors knew

    R. Lynn Barnett
  • Is physician shadowing immoral?

    David Penner

More in Physician

  • The attention economy is starving public health

    Paul Dranichnikov, MD, PhD
  • Physician burnout is not the whole diagnosis

    Gus W. Krucke, MD
  • Physician advocacy can close the gap between appointments

    Samantha Jackson Dilts, MD
  • Medical hierarchy is silencing young doctors who want to write

    Dr. Buga Charles George Kenyi
  • Why military patients carry pain a chart can’t explain

    Ann Lebeck, MD
  • Leaving medicine is a translation problem, not a loss

    Shveta Gupta, MD, MBA
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • DEA fear is reshaping how doctors prescribe

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • The MCAT requirement persists as a norm, not as a tool

      Aniruth Ananthanarayanan | Medical Education
    • The double standard at the heart of chronic pain treatment

      Joshua Saylor | Conditions and Diseases
    • Your sinus infection may not be an infection

      Franklyn R. Gergits, DO, MBA | Conditions and Diseases
    • Pregnant resident discrimination nearly cost me everything

      Elham N. Samani, MD | Physician
    • The attention economy is starving public health

      Paul Dranichnikov, MD, PhD | Physician
  • Past 6 Months

    • Primary care crisis requires new training and skills

      Justin Oldfield, MD | Physician
    • Polycystic ovary syndrome is more than ovarian

      Oluyemisi Famuyiwa, MD | Conditions and Diseases
    • DEA fear is reshaping how doctors prescribe

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • The handwashing standard nobody finished. Until now.

      Bernadette Burroughs, RN | Conditions and Diseases
    • Primary care access is the real problem, not the system

      Payam Zamani, MD | Physician
    • Why bipolar II is not just a milder version of bipolar I

      Ethan Evans, MD | Conditions and Diseases
  • Recent Posts

    • The attention economy is starving public health

      Paul Dranichnikov, MD, PhD | Physician
    • Mental health ghost networks are badly hurting patients

      Steve Cohen, JD | Conditions and Diseases
    • 3 changes physicians on social media need from institutions

      Trisha Majumdar | Social Media in Medicine
    • Why your overhead percentage is the wrong benchmark

      GetPracticeHelp | Physician Finance
    • The opioid crackdown is harming chronic pain patients

      Bill Bauer, MD, PhD | Conditions and Diseases
    • ED boarding fails patients before treatment begins

      Sarah Whaley | Conditions and Diseases

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

Leave a Comment

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • DEA fear is reshaping how doctors prescribe

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • The MCAT requirement persists as a norm, not as a tool

      Aniruth Ananthanarayanan | Medical Education
    • The double standard at the heart of chronic pain treatment

      Joshua Saylor | Conditions and Diseases
    • Your sinus infection may not be an infection

      Franklyn R. Gergits, DO, MBA | Conditions and Diseases
    • Pregnant resident discrimination nearly cost me everything

      Elham N. Samani, MD | Physician
    • The attention economy is starving public health

      Paul Dranichnikov, MD, PhD | Physician
  • Past 6 Months

    • Primary care crisis requires new training and skills

      Justin Oldfield, MD | Physician
    • Polycystic ovary syndrome is more than ovarian

      Oluyemisi Famuyiwa, MD | Conditions and Diseases
    • DEA fear is reshaping how doctors prescribe

      Ronald L. Lindsay, MD | Physician
    • The handwashing standard nobody finished. Until now.

      Bernadette Burroughs, RN | Conditions and Diseases
    • Primary care access is the real problem, not the system

      Payam Zamani, MD | Physician
    • Why bipolar II is not just a milder version of bipolar I

      Ethan Evans, MD | Conditions and Diseases
  • Recent Posts

    • The attention economy is starving public health

      Paul Dranichnikov, MD, PhD | Physician
    • Mental health ghost networks are badly hurting patients

      Steve Cohen, JD | Conditions and Diseases
    • 3 changes physicians on social media need from institutions

      Trisha Majumdar | Social Media in Medicine
    • Why your overhead percentage is the wrong benchmark

      GetPracticeHelp | Physician Finance
    • The opioid crackdown is harming chronic pain patients

      Bill Bauer, MD, PhD | Conditions and Diseases
    • ED boarding fails patients before treatment begins

      Sarah Whaley | Conditions and Diseases

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today

Copyright © 2026 KevinMD.com | Powered by Astra WordPress Theme

  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

Leave a Comment

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...