Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Recommended
  • Speaking
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking

Why do we teach surgery the same way we did 40 years ago?

Skeptical Scalpel, MD
Education
July 27, 2012
Share
Tweet
Share

When I was a surgical residency program director, I often wondered what the establishment, you know those guys who ran surgical education, was thinking. Some may remember the rule that a resident had to see at least 50% of the patients he operated on in the clinic or the private surgeon’s office in order to claim credit for having done the case.

There was the emphasis that still exists today on making sure every resident did research. At last, some are questioning the value of this for the average clinical surgeon. Contrary to the prevailing wisdom, there is no evidence that a resident who is dragged kicking and screaming through a clinical research project or who spent a year in someone’s lab really learns anything about research or how to read and understand a research paper. Then there is the obsession with a transplant rotation, recently noted to be a waste of time in the opinion of surgical residency program directors.

And what’s with all the emphasis on basic science? Shouldn’t the residents have learned all the basic science they need (and more) in medical school? With all that is new in clinical surgery, why are residents forced to relearn basic science that they will not ever use in practice? When you stand at the bedside of a sick patient, do you ask yourself, “How is lactic acid formed”? Or do you simply order a lactate level?

Why do we teach surgery the same way we did 40 years ago? Instead of teaching residents how to think, we still force them to memorize large volumes of information that they can carry in their smart phones.

Now I am wondering what is going on with clinical training. A recent paper found that residents are concerned that their operative skills are inadequate.

Last year in a blog reviewing that paper, I wrote, “A significant number of all residents surveyed worried that they would not feel confident to perform surgery by themselves when they finished training. A similar number were not satisfied with their operative experience.”

Many graduates of residency take fellowships to gain extra experience. Especially interesting is the proliferation of so-called “advanced” laparoscopic fellowships. There was a time when we taught residents all they needed to know in five years. Why can’t residents learn advanced laparoscopy during a five-year surgical residency? Are they too busy memorizing the Glasgow Coma Scale?

I recently heard of a new proposal: there may be a plan to offer “open surgery” fellowships. Details are sketchy, but the idea would be to train surgeons to do old-fashioned laparotomies. It’s not yet clear which of the surgical disciplines (such as vascular, colorectal, hepatobiliary) would be involved or which hospitals have enough volume of open surgery to support such a fellowship.

Maybe we should skip most of general surgery residency altogether and just let them go to their fellowships after a year or two of basic training.

“Skeptical Scalpel” is a surgeon blogs at his self-titled site, Skeptical Scalpel.

Prev

Reinforcing my desire to become a pediatrician

July 27, 2012 Kevin 1
…
Next

5 questions every patient needs to ask

July 27, 2012 Kevin 7
…

Tagged as: Residency, Surgery

Post navigation

< Previous Post
Reinforcing my desire to become a pediatrician
Next Post >
5 questions every patient needs to ask

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Skeptical Scalpel, MD

  • The hospital CEO who made a surgical incision. What happened?

    Skeptical Scalpel, MD
  • Medical error is not the third leading cause of death

    Skeptical Scalpel, MD
  • Should speed-eating contests be banned?

    Skeptical Scalpel, MD

More in Education

  • Why intercultural competence matters in health care

    Evangelos Chavelas
  • Is medical school culture replacing academic rigor?

    Kurt Miceli, MD, MBA
  • Federal graduate-loan caps threaten rural health care access

    Kenneth Botelho, DMSc, PA-C
  • How medical students can handle vaccine hesitancy in pediatrics

    Adam Zbib
  • Physician advocacy as a core clinical skill

    Tyler D. Harvey, MPH
  • The physician-nurse hierarchy in medicine

    Jennifer Carraher, RNC-OB
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • The blind men and the elephant: a parable for modern pain management

      Richard A. Lawhern, PhD | Conditions
    • The dangers of oral steroids for seasonal illness

      Megan Milne, PharmD | Meds
    • Catching type 1 diabetes before it becomes life-threatening [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Home for Christmas: a physician’s tale of prior authorization

      Edward Anselm, MD | Physician
    • Joy in medicine: a new culture

      Kelly D. Holder, PhD & Kim Downey, PT & Sarah Hollander, MD | Conditions
    • Physician asset protection: a guide to entity strategy

      Clint Coons, Esq | Finance
  • Past 6 Months

    • The blind men and the elephant: a parable for modern pain management

      Richard A. Lawhern, PhD | Conditions
    • Is primary care becoming a triage station?

      J. Leonard Lichtenfeld, MD | Physician
    • Psychiatrists are physicians: a key distinction

      Farid Sabet-Sharghi, MD | Physician
    • Why feeling unlike yourself is a sign of physician emotional overload

      Stephanie Wellington, MD | Physician
    • The U.S. gastroenterologist shortage explained

      Brian Hudes, MD | Physician
    • Accountable care cooperatives: a community-owned health care fix

      David K. Cundiff, MD | Policy
  • Recent Posts

    • Home for Christmas: a physician’s tale of prior authorization

      Edward Anselm, MD | Physician
    • Why current medical malpractice tort reforms fail

      Howard Smith, MD | Physician
    • Why U.S. health care outcomes lag behind other nations

      Ariane Marie-Mitchell, MD, PhD, MPH | Physician
    • How political polarization causes real psychological trauma [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • The quiet bravery of breast cancer screening

      Michele Luckenbaugh | Conditions
    • How automation threatens medical ethics principles

      Muhammad Mohsin Fareed, MD | Conditions

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

View 1 Comments >

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • The blind men and the elephant: a parable for modern pain management

      Richard A. Lawhern, PhD | Conditions
    • The dangers of oral steroids for seasonal illness

      Megan Milne, PharmD | Meds
    • Catching type 1 diabetes before it becomes life-threatening [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Home for Christmas: a physician’s tale of prior authorization

      Edward Anselm, MD | Physician
    • Joy in medicine: a new culture

      Kelly D. Holder, PhD & Kim Downey, PT & Sarah Hollander, MD | Conditions
    • Physician asset protection: a guide to entity strategy

      Clint Coons, Esq | Finance
  • Past 6 Months

    • The blind men and the elephant: a parable for modern pain management

      Richard A. Lawhern, PhD | Conditions
    • Is primary care becoming a triage station?

      J. Leonard Lichtenfeld, MD | Physician
    • Psychiatrists are physicians: a key distinction

      Farid Sabet-Sharghi, MD | Physician
    • Why feeling unlike yourself is a sign of physician emotional overload

      Stephanie Wellington, MD | Physician
    • The U.S. gastroenterologist shortage explained

      Brian Hudes, MD | Physician
    • Accountable care cooperatives: a community-owned health care fix

      David K. Cundiff, MD | Policy
  • Recent Posts

    • Home for Christmas: a physician’s tale of prior authorization

      Edward Anselm, MD | Physician
    • Why current medical malpractice tort reforms fail

      Howard Smith, MD | Physician
    • Why U.S. health care outcomes lag behind other nations

      Ariane Marie-Mitchell, MD, PhD, MPH | Physician
    • How political polarization causes real psychological trauma [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • The quiet bravery of breast cancer screening

      Michele Luckenbaugh | Conditions
    • How automation threatens medical ethics principles

      Muhammad Mohsin Fareed, MD | Conditions

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today
  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

Why do we teach surgery the same way we did 40 years ago?
1 comments

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...