Skip to content
  • About
  • Contact
  • Contribute
  • Book
  • Careers
  • Podcast
  • Recommended
  • Speaking
  • All
  • Physician
  • Practice
  • Policy
  • Finance
  • Conditions
  • .edu
  • Patient
  • Meds
  • Tech
  • Social
  • Video
    • All
    • Physician
    • Practice
    • Policy
    • Finance
    • Conditions
    • .edu
    • Patient
    • Meds
    • Tech
    • Social
    • Video
    • About
    • Contact
    • Contribute
    • Book
    • Careers
    • Podcast
    • Recommended
    • Speaking

What, exactly, does a “real doctor” look like?

Yul Ejnes, MD
Physician
July 27, 2015
Share
Tweet
Share

shutterstock_206417596

acp new logoA guest column by the American College of Physicians, exclusive to KevinMD.com.

In the spring of 2009, I represented the American College of Physicians (ACP) at a meeting in Washington of health policy experts discussing payment reform. When I arrived at the cocktail reception the night before the meeting, a well-known medical leader not known to be an admirer of practicing physicians introduced me to the two people with whom she was chatting. She said, “This is Yul Ejnes. He is a real doctor.”

I was flattered by that introduction. I thought the description was apropos, especially since I arrived late to the reception because three hours earlier I was rushing out of my office after an almost-full day of seeing patients. Why take the entire afternoon off for a more leisurely journey to DC, I figured, when I could see patients until 4, get to the airport in time for a 5:15 flight, and be a little late for dinner? That’s the mindset of a physician in private practice.

Fast forward to last year, where at a meeting that I attended at my medical school, the dean started the introductions by asking us to tell the group who we were, what we did, and who signed our paycheck. That last part was a first for me. When it was my turn, I introduced myself and proclaimed proudly that I signed my own paycheck. I was the only one there who could say that. In other words, I was not an academic, full-time, or employed physician; I was a private practice physician who made a living from seeing patients — a “real” doctor.

Over the years, I’ve come across the term “real doctor” in many contexts, usually in criticisms of professional societies (including ACP), certifying boards (I should disclose that I am a member of ABIM’s internal medicine specialty board), guideline developers, and health policy makers, among others. The common theme is that much of what these entities do is irrelevant or hostile to physicians, because “real doctors” are not involved in the process. Yet, most, if not all, of these groups include physicians who spend the majority of their time in patient care.

This has gotten me wondering about what constitutes a “real doctor.” Perhaps the type of physician that I consider to be real isn’t “real” enough for some.

Another term that often accompanies “real doctor,” or who isn’t one, is “out of touch,” which is code for “since they don’t do what I do, they don’t know what it’s like.” That is an interesting philosophy, since almost all of us spend our careers ordering or performing tests and treatments for conditions that we haven’t experienced ourselves without questioning our legitimacy in doing so.

After the meeting at the medical school, I thought about my paycheck comment and felt a little guilty. It wasn’t because I don’t actually receive a paycheck (I am on paperless direct deposit, but that’s close enough), but because my practice’s chief financial officer is the one who signs the paper paychecks that do go out. However, the dollar amount is determined the same way that it was when I was one of two physicians in my group and one of us signed all the paychecks.

Sometimes I wonder if I’m really a “real doctor,” despite all I wrote above. I see 85 or so patients a week. I’m a partner in my practice (which is 100 percent physician-owned). I’m responsible for 1/3 of the overhead in my office. The huge majority of my income is based on how many patients I see. That seems “real” to me. At the same time, I practice in a medical home and accountable care organization, my group has about 90 physicians, I use an EHR, and a small but growing part of my income is derived from shared savings and quality incentives. Does that make me “out of touch”? Or should I consider my colleagues who are practicing in more old-fashioned ways to be “out of touch”?

For that matter, what about a physician who spends most of their workday seeing patients, dealing with E/M codes (and soon, ICD-10), having to achieve productivity and patient survey score targets, and worrying about being able to pay student loans, the mortgage, and their kids’ college tuition, but is employed by a health system or integrated medical group? Is that a “real doctor”? Or an academic physician who is “on service” several months of the year supervising residents treating a large panel of inpatients, managing the medical, behavioral, and socioeconomic issues that those patients face, and teaching? Real or not? (I haven’t yet heard a good term to describe someone who is not a “real doctor.”)

If this is starting to appear ridiculous, it’s because it is. The physician community is a diverse one, with ever-changing demographics. Decision makers, medical organizations, and other stakeholders need to remember that and consider the wide variety of practice types and settings when they develop policy. However, physicians need to remember, respect, and value that diversity as well.

Yul Ejnes is an internal medicine physician and a past chair, board of regents, American College of Physicians. His statements do not necessarily reflect official policies of ACP.

Image credit: Shutterstock.com

ADVERTISEMENT

Prev

How motivational interviewing can relieve patients' suffering

July 27, 2015 Kevin 1
…
Next

A background in anthropology comes in handy on the wards

July 28, 2015 Kevin 1
…

Tagged as: Primary Care

Post navigation

< Previous Post
How motivational interviewing can relieve patients' suffering
Next Post >
A background in anthropology comes in handy on the wards

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

More by Yul Ejnes, MD

  • Different perspectives but the same goal: providing the best possible care to patients

    Yul Ejnes, MD
  • Rising premiums, high deductibles, and gaps in coverage before the ACA

    Yul Ejnes, MD
  • Improving physician satisfaction by eliminating unnecessary practice burdens

    Yul Ejnes, MD

Related Posts

  • Why social media may be causing real emotional harm

    Edwin Leap, MD
  • Taking off the training wheels and becoming a real doctor

    Nathaniel Fleming
  • Osler and the doctor-patient relationship

    Leonard Wang
  • A physician’s addiction to social media

    Amanda Xi, MD
  • Finding a new doctor is like dating

    R. Lynn Barnett
  • Doctor, how are you, really?

    Deborah Courtney

More in Physician

  • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

    Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD
  • The child within: a grown woman’s quiet grief

    Dr. Damane Zehra
  • Why the physician shortage may be our last line of defense

    Yuri Aronov, MD
  • 5 years later: Doctors reveal the untold truths of COVID-19

    Arthur Lazarus, MD, MBA
  • The hidden cost of health care: burnout, disillusionment, and systemic betrayal

    Nivedita U. Jerath, MD
  • Why this doctor hid her story for a decade

    Diane W. Shannon, MD, MPH
  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • The silent toll of ICE raids on U.S. patient care

      Carlin Lockwood | Policy
    • Why medical students are trading empathy for publications

      Vijay Rajput, MD | Education
    • Why does rifaximin cost 95 percent more in the U.S. than in Asia?

      Jai Kumar, MD, Brian Nohomovich, DO, PhD and Leonid Shamban, DO | Meds
    • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

      Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD | Physician
    • How collaboration across medical disciplines and patient advocacy cured a rare disease [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Bird flu’s deadly return: Are we flying blind into the next pandemic?

      Tista S. Ghosh, MD, MPH | Conditions
  • Past 6 Months

    • What’s driving medical students away from primary care?

      ​​Vineeth Amba, MPH, Archita Goyal, and Wayne Altman, MD | Education
    • A faster path to becoming a doctor is possible—here’s how

      Ankit Jain | Education
    • How dismantling DEI endangers the future of medical care

      Shashank Madhu and Christian Tallo | Education
    • How scales of justice saved a doctor-patient relationship

      Neil Baum, MD | Physician
    • Make cognitive testing as routine as a blood pressure check

      Joshua Baker and James Jackson, PsyD | Conditions
    • The broken health care system doesn’t have to break you

      Jessie Mahoney, MD | Physician
  • Recent Posts

    • How collaboration across medical disciplines and patient advocacy cured a rare disease [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • 5 cancer myths that could delay your diagnosis or treatment

      Joseph Alvarnas, MD | Conditions
    • When bleeding disorders meet IVF: Navigating von Willebrand disease in fertility treatment

      Oluyemisi Famuyiwa, MD | Conditions
    • The hidden cost of becoming a doctor: a South Asian perspective

      Momeina Aslam | Education
    • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

      Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD | Physician
    • The child within: a grown woman’s quiet grief

      Dr. Damane Zehra | Physician

Subscribe to KevinMD and never miss a story!

Get free updates delivered free to your inbox.


Find jobs at
Careers by KevinMD.com

Search thousands of physician, PA, NP, and CRNA jobs now.

Learn more

View 7 Comments >

Founded in 2004 by Kevin Pho, MD, KevinMD.com is the web’s leading platform where physicians, advanced practitioners, nurses, medical students, and patients share their insight and tell their stories.

Social

  • Like on Facebook
  • Follow on Twitter
  • Connect on Linkedin
  • Subscribe on Youtube
  • Instagram

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

ADVERTISEMENT

  • Most Popular

  • Past Week

    • The silent toll of ICE raids on U.S. patient care

      Carlin Lockwood | Policy
    • Why medical students are trading empathy for publications

      Vijay Rajput, MD | Education
    • Why does rifaximin cost 95 percent more in the U.S. than in Asia?

      Jai Kumar, MD, Brian Nohomovich, DO, PhD and Leonid Shamban, DO | Meds
    • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

      Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD | Physician
    • How collaboration across medical disciplines and patient advocacy cured a rare disease [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • Bird flu’s deadly return: Are we flying blind into the next pandemic?

      Tista S. Ghosh, MD, MPH | Conditions
  • Past 6 Months

    • What’s driving medical students away from primary care?

      ​​Vineeth Amba, MPH, Archita Goyal, and Wayne Altman, MD | Education
    • A faster path to becoming a doctor is possible—here’s how

      Ankit Jain | Education
    • How dismantling DEI endangers the future of medical care

      Shashank Madhu and Christian Tallo | Education
    • How scales of justice saved a doctor-patient relationship

      Neil Baum, MD | Physician
    • Make cognitive testing as routine as a blood pressure check

      Joshua Baker and James Jackson, PsyD | Conditions
    • The broken health care system doesn’t have to break you

      Jessie Mahoney, MD | Physician
  • Recent Posts

    • How collaboration across medical disciplines and patient advocacy cured a rare disease [PODCAST]

      The Podcast by KevinMD | Podcast
    • 5 cancer myths that could delay your diagnosis or treatment

      Joseph Alvarnas, MD | Conditions
    • When bleeding disorders meet IVF: Navigating von Willebrand disease in fertility treatment

      Oluyemisi Famuyiwa, MD | Conditions
    • The hidden cost of becoming a doctor: a South Asian perspective

      Momeina Aslam | Education
    • Physician patriots: the forgotten founders who lit the torch of liberty

      Muhamad Aly Rifai, MD | Physician
    • The child within: a grown woman’s quiet grief

      Dr. Damane Zehra | Physician

MedPage Today Professional

An Everyday Health Property Medpage Today
  • Terms of Use | Disclaimer
  • Privacy Policy
  • DMCA Policy
All Content © KevinMD, LLC
Site by Outthink Group

What, exactly, does a “real doctor” look like?
7 comments

Comments are moderated before they are published. Please read the comment policy.

Loading Comments...